Megan Davis and George Williams join Mark Kenny live in Canberra to talk about Australia’s constitution and their new book, Everything you need to know about the Voice.

Some critics of the Voice argue it would introduce race into the constitution, but is racial discrimination in fact a significant factor in the document and its history?

Has the government dropped the ball by not running a civic education campaign in the lead-up to the referendum?

And why is Australia’s colonial history not better understood by the broader population?

On this special episode of Democracy Sausage, recorded live on campus at The Australian National University (ANU), Professor Megan Davis and Professor George Williams AO join Professor Mark Kenny to talk about the upcoming referendum and their new book, Everything you need to know about the Voice.

This episode was recorded live as part of the ANU/Canberra Times Meet the Author series on 7 August 2023. Everything you need to know about the Voice was published by UNSW Press.

Megan Davis is the Pro Vice-Chancellor (Society), the Balnaves Chair of Constitutional Law, a Professor of Law and the Director of the Indigenous Law Centre at UNSW.

George Williams AO is the Deputy Vice-Chancellor (Planning and Assurance), the Anthony Mason Professor and a Scientia Professor of constitutional law at UNSW.

Mark Kenny is a Professor at the ANU Australian Studies Institute. He came to the University after a high-profile journalistic career including six years as chief political correspondent and national affairs editor for The Sydney Morning Herald, The Age and The Canberra Times.

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This podcast is produced by The Australian National University.

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